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Memories of the Hatfield-St Albans Branch Line / Re: Snow stops trains
« on: October 08, 2013, 06:21:29 PM »
Hi Colin,

Thanks very much for your informative comments! :-)  I'm now wondering whether your mother/you might remember any of the other Wilkins Green Cottages residents as maybe having been railway employees and, if so, any names and what sort/s of jobs they did. (Not to worry if not, but I feel I can't pass up the chance to ask.  ;-) )

Thanks again,

Alastair

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Hi All,

For those who haven't seen my lengthier post-visit email, here are my main observations, as requested:

My aim was to look at maps, railway-,related documents and any images that would help me to understand the development of the branch and Smallford Station, in particular in its latter days.

I managed to see a number of relevant maps and documents which related to them, and Jon Musk kindly helped with photography of the large-scale OS maps most pertinent to my aims; I look forward to seeing copies of the 'targeted' photos in particular, in due course.

Reassuringly, I learnt that I had not been led astray by any of the relevant material I had previously seen elsewhere, and that there was also a lot of interesting 'background' info in the Archives, to 'explain' developments more fully.

What I plan to do next is progress my developing ideas about the station area around  the late 50's/early 60's, if possible with more input from folk who have relevant memories of it, and possibly also the earlier history of Wilkins Green Terrace.

I'd like to visit HALS again, to ensure there's nothing else of importance to my researches in the Local Studies  Book collection (which I only had time to look at very selectively), in terms of images mostly, and will probably wait for a further group visit to be arranged to do this.

Alastair

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Smallford Station Project / Re: Visit to HALS - What did you discover?
« on: March 23, 2013, 09:15:07 PM »
Hi All,

For those who haven't seen my lengthier post-visit email, here are my main observations, as requested:

My aim was to look at maps, railway-,related documents and any images that would help me to understand the development of the branch and Smallford Station, in particular in its latter days.

I managed to see a number of relevant maps and documents which related to them, and Jon Musk kindly helped with photography of the large-scale OS maps most pertinent to my aims; I look forward to seeing copies of the 'targeted' photos in particular, in due course.

Reassuringly, I learnt that I had not been led astray by any of the relevant material I had previously seen elsewhere, and that there was also a lot of interesting 'background' info in the Archives, to 'explain' developments more fully.

What I plan to do next is progress my developing ideas about the station area around  the late 50's/early 60's, if possible with more input from folk who have relevant memories of it, and possibly also the earlier history of Wilkins Green Terrace.

I'd like to visit HALS again, to ensure there's nothing else of importance to my researches in the Local Studies  Book collection (which I only had time to look at very selectively), in terms of images mostly, and will probably wait for a further group visit to be arranged to do this.

Alastair

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Memories of the Hatfield-St Albans Branch Line / Re: Snow stops trains
« on: March 14, 2013, 01:25:35 PM »
Hi folks

Attached to this posting are two items -
  • a photo of a train stuck in snow along the old branch line - between Smallford Station and Nast Hyde Halt - taken in 1927 and sent to us by Chris Blow son of Percy Blow (who I think may have been an early film maker - probably someone might have some comments on this?
  • two newspaper articles from Roger Taylor's Archive reporting this incident - from The Times (28th December 1927) and Herts Advertiser (30th December 1927)

I look forward to your comments - and to reading more memorable articles!

Jeff

Jeff/All,

Judging by the apparent down-tilted 'shooting angle' used by the photographer and the irregular dark area at the bottom of the picture (possibly a very close, and thus out-of-focus, 'top edge of a structure'), plus things mentioned in the newspaper articles, I reckon the photo must have been taken from the parapet of the bridge beside 'our' station, facing towards Nast Hyde Halt+Hatfield.

Attached is a photo I took from essentially that position in 2001 - without any snow or telegraph poles, but with much more lineside vegetation having grown over the 70-odd intervening years!

It looks as though the train got stuck close to the point where the old Sleapshyde to Wilkins Green Footpath crossed the railway, so its seems likely that the kind folk who took food and hot drinks, etc., did so from the hamlets of Sleapshyde and Wilkins Green, and possibly 'Wilkins Green Terrace' at the 'Smallford' end of Wilkins Green Lane also. There were few other dwellings in the area in 1927, going by the 1925 map (see http://www.old-maps.co.uk/maps.html, plus some 'navigation'). If anyone can correct me on my speculations, or add further solid information, please do so!

Alastair

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I have now had time to look through Rudi's excellent list and have come up with my list of "Favourites" - top being best:
R614-616 (Three people could look at these),
R611-613 (again, three),
R605-610 (six lots),
DE/P/P52,
DP/4/28/3,
DEGA36085-7.
Are any of these on anyone else's wish list? If not, I'll pre-order R614-616.

Hi John/All,

I've just put in a 'Request List' to HALS (copy attached) comprising most of Rudi's highlighted items, and thus most of your 'Favourites' - EXCEPT R611-613 and R614-616, so, over to you, to order those.
See you on Wednesday.

Alastair

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Facts about the Hatfield-St Albans Branch Line / Nast Hyde Halt
« on: March 12, 2013, 07:17:55 PM »
Hello All,

At our Feb. 4th 'gathering', there was some talk about the wooden 'hut' that had been on the Nast Hyde Halt platform and whether it had been a 'Waiting Room/Shelter' (to serve the very few passengers who used the halt up to closure to passengers in 1951) or had some other purpose....

Looking at the remaining structure in the 1967 photo on Nick Catford's 'Disused Stations' website, the missing door allows one to see an apparent seat bench inside. Earlier photos seen elsewhere (including Brian Anderson's 1962 shot in "The Hatfield and St Albans Branch....") show the structure previously had a 'tin' chimney, which presumably served a stove that could heat the interior...before stove, chimney and door eventually  'disappeared'. Here's a link:

http://www.disused-stations.org.uk/n/nast_hyde_halt/index.shtml

So, it seems almost certain that it had been a Waiting Room (or Shelter-with-door at least!) but if anyone knows different, or more about who used it and what for (remembering the Moderator/s will be monitoring postings.....), please do tell.

If anyone is thinking about joining in the the 'tidy-up' of the old platform (when the weather gets reliably warmer!), please let me know - I'm too far away to organise it, but would like to help if I can.

Alastair

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Hello all,

I thought it might be an idea to discuss what topics/archives everyone was hoping to look at so as not everyone is looking at the same things at the same time, or ordering to view the same document as someone else might have already done.

I was hoping to look at anything to do with the construction of the Station (if at all possible) - I write this before having had a look at the archive search online though.

What is everyone else hoping to look at?

I, too, am interested in anything on the construction of the station - the main building that still exists and its former associated operations structures relating to goods, passengers and staff. 

I'm particularly keen to see large-scale OS maps dating from c.1865 to c.1969, to see changes over the years and make sure nothing of significance is missed in developing the planned model.

I'm also keen to see any photos there might be (beyond those I've already seen) in the same vein, and also more views of the traffic carried on the branch, especially from the late 50's to late 60's.

Alastair

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